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Passenger Carrying Coaches
Maunsell 48’ LSWR Rebuilds

As modelled by Hornby

 (7th September 2017)

Come 1934, the Southern Railway’s life-expired 48’ ex-LSWR stock needed major attention; these vehicles dating back to 1894-1902. The majority was on wooden underframes and gas lit so in Southern ‘tradition’ refurbishment was proposed. This was undertaken under Works Order (HOO No.) L801 of March 1934 (for fifty coaches) and Works Order (HOO No.) L852A of March 1935 (for 74 coaches). HOO No.852B was for electrical lighting alterations to the remaining 48’ ex-LSWR coaches that were not converted.

Using Maunsell underframes to support the 48’ Composite bodies (now ‘cut and shut’) this created 58’ long stock; diagrams 99 (Brake Third) and 418 (Brake Composite Lavatory) were re-framed at Lancing Works in April 1936 and arranged into 2-LAV sets nos. 42 to 46. Allocated to the South Western Division, these sets seated 10 number 1st class and 118 number 3rd class passengers.

The diagram 31 coaches were reframed at Lancing between January and April 1935. Nos.219 and 373 were Pull-Push fitted by 1958.

Structurally identical to diagram 418, the diagram 98 coaches were re-framed at Lancing Works between October and December 1936.

To form the Brake coaches a 10’ guards van was created at one end; being steel panelled this didn’t match the wooden panelling of the compartments. The composites were formed by cutting the original 48’ body into two sections; mounting these at each end of the underframe with a 10’ section being inserted in between. This additional section comprised a single compartment with two lavatories (arranged side by side).

There was a defining feature of all these rebuilt vehicles in the form of a triangular section weatherboard running the length of the body; this also disguised the join between the 48’ body which was narrower than the newer 58’ underframe (used by restriction ‘4’ stock); these being equipped with standard SR 8’ steam bogies.

For the modeller details (most withdrawals took place in 1958) disposition of Loose vehicles as follows:

 

 

1955 Appendix to
Carriage Working Notice
(Loose coaches)

1957 Appendix to
Carriage Working Notice
(Loose coaches)

Diag 31 9-camp lavatory TL
Restriction ‘0’
88 seats

Nos. 169 & 173 (not stated)

Nos. 175, 181 & 184 not listed as loose

No. 187 (not stated)

Nos. 188 & 194 (not stated)

No. 204 (not stated)

No. 208 (not stated)

No. 217 not listed as loose

Nos. 219 & 225 (not stated)

No. 231 not listed as loose

No. 253 (not stated)

No. 267 not listed as loose

Nos. 268 & 280 (not stated)

No. 284 not listed as loose

No. 290 not listed as loose

Nos. 291, 299, 304, 313, 320 & 326 (not stated)

No. 329 not listed as loose

No. 353 (not stated)

No. 360 (not stated)

No. 361 not listed as loose

Nos. 364, 373*, 382 & 387 (not stated)

No. 394 not listed as loose

Nos. 403, 476 & 513 (not stated)

Nos. 169 (Hayling Island)

Nos. 173, 175, 181 & 184 not listed as loose

No. 187 (Southern District)

Nos. 188 &194 not listed as loose

No. 204 (London Central & London East Districts)

No. 208 (Southern District)

Nos. 217 not listed as loose

Nos. 219* & 225 (Southern District)

No. 231 not listed as loose

No. 253 (Southern District)

No. 267 not listed as loose

Nos. 268 & 280 (Southern District)

No. 284 (London Central & London East Districts)

Nos. 290, 291 not listed as loose

Nos. 299, 304, 313, 320 & 326 (Southern District),

No. 329 (London Central & London East Districts)

Nos. 353 not listed as loose

No. 360 (Southern District)

No. 361 not listed as loose

Nos. 364, 373*, 382 & 387 (Southern District)

Nos. 394, 403 & 476 not listed as loose

No. 513 (Southern District)

 

 

*PP fitted by 1958.

Diag 98 6-comp lavatory BTL
Restriction’3’
52 seats

Nos. 2625 to 2629

No. 2626 allocated to Templecombe for S&D.
None listed as Loose.

Nos. 2625 to 2629

No. 2626 allocated to Templecombe for S&D.
None listed as Loose.

 

2-LAV sets

 

Set no. 42

Set no. 43

Set no. 44

Set no. 45

Set no. 46

Diag 99 8-comp BT

No. 2636

No. 2637

No. 2638

No. 2639

No. 2640

Diag 418 6-comp
lavatory BCL

No. 6401

No. 6402

No. 6403

No. 6404

No. 6405

 

Certainly, in July 1955 set 42 was used on the Lyme Regis branch.

Dates for repainting into Crimson Lake aren’t currently known; set 43 probably did not receive malachite and so could have been an early recipient of Crimson Lake. Sets 42-46 were withdrawn at Lancing between 1956 and 1959.

After nationalisation set 46 was lengthened to five coaches with the addition of loose seconds as follows:

2640 + 1075 + 1078 + 1079 + 6403

 

Set

Olive

Malachite

Crimson Lake

Withdrawn

42

Apr-36

8-Feb-45

Not known

2-Nov-57

43

Apr-36

Believed not

Not known

17-May-58

44

Apr-36

24-Mar-43

Not known

14-Jun-58

45

Apr-36

23-May-47

Not known

24-Nov-56

46

?

Not known

Not known

1-Apr-59

 

It was only a few of the TL (diag. 31) coaches that were recorded by Lancing Works as carrying Southern Region green (it appears the remainder were withdrawn in Crimson Lake or Southern Railway green). Those coaches that it is believed didn’t carry Crimson Lake and went straight from SR Green to BR (S) green were 169, 187, 219, 313, 320, 360 & 373.

Finally, within its 2017 issue-batch Hornby modelled no.320 (purchased by the Bluebell Railway in 1960) in its post-war SR livery which it kept until outshopped from Lancing carriage works into Southern Region green 4th October 1956.

Hornby’s 2017 model releases

 

Diag 31 TL

Diag 98 BTL

Diag 99 BT
(2-LAV)

Diag 418 BCL
(2-LAV)

Olive green
(plain)

2638
R4720A

2625
R4718A

Set 42
2636
R4717A

Set 42
6401
R4719A

Malachite green

320#
R4795

2628
R4793

Set 44
2638
R4793

Set 44
6403
R4794

Crimson Lake

 

 

Set 42
S2636S
R3398+

Set 42
S6401S
R3398+

Crimson Lake

S267S
R4749

S2629S
R4747

Set 43
S2637S
R4946

Set 43
S6402S
R4948

Crimson Lake

S280S
R4749A
(Southern District)

S2627S
R4747A

Set 46
S2640S
R4746A

Set 46
S6405S
R4748A

 

# currently preserved

 

+ R3398 released in train pack with 30583 (early crest)


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